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Georgia Gazette
Parliamentary Debates,
HOUSE of COMMONS, March 13.
H fe went ir.to it Conuuit ce
m ■■ ‘d ot Mr. Burke’s bill, and Mr.
’ \ Eiwes toi-k the The li it
,A clause difcufisi vmf that which
ft 1 W. abfi!ilh?s the K-s d,of Trade.
M”. Eden ob'erveV, iLat fame
4 corfuleration (hculi behui far
v t/*ei W a ,jarc * l-ng and cutiftituikn
ally elhbfiffied, a:,d thatiiuiight
not t'’ be abolifhad without caolV. If the honour
able Member who had framed the b!l v. iflied to
have evidence rel t'.ive t • its utility ha could fumith
him with it; he had evidence on record, cot lifting
of 3300 volumes, containing the t:a Tift ors of the
Bond, and likewise the oral evidence cf Mr. Pa*.,
nail, who had been 30 years Secretary to it.
Mr. Bu See treated the idea of the 23c© volumes
in Ift very laughable and ludicrous a manner as cf
f-rded the Houf’e no fin; II amufemeot.
Mr. Pownsll f-joks at greet length and with much
ht’m ur and vivacity cn the question, and lhewed
that the Board of Trade was totally inadequate at
the prefect time to the fu meses for which the Hon
ourable Gentleman had said it was adapted. After
grifat attention on the fubjfft, he was convinced that
judice, policy, propriety, el! requited that that e
liabb’fhmert thould be ab liflied.
SirEdwaid Dcering advcited to the conduft of a
Honour..ble Gentleman refpr *i g his prin
ciple fuggeifed on Wednesday la ft, that the II use
had no controu! ov-.r the King’s Civil Lilt.
Mr. Rigby obfci vrd, that, when hr fiitl the Par
liament had iiocontroul over theKr g’s Civil Lift,
he never meant to fay that tiiey had o over-ruling
r. wfrir. • .a/s -.kai/* ■•* - ; r -y-w-•
riv rdt iitg.if to ds Late unuT- : •’*.* . - . -
firti proved. * L
If the Judges salaries, for instance, were unpaid,
or rtfufed, thatwou and bean abuse, and Parliun'nt
could have a right to enquire ir,jo it. With
lefpeft to the People of England, hr than h their
petitions tru’y rtfpeft ible, and that the Miriifter
could nrt decently remain in office, if the voice of
the people was agiit-ft him.
Mr. Fox declared, that he would rot rotracl from
the declaration he had made on a former day, and
he wished inlfantly to meet him on the grout and, and
decideaipon it. He had declared, th it if fu h a
doftrine was cftabulh 3 ;!, thev must go to aoothcr
place, and refeue themselves from (Itvsry by other
arguments than * o;ds.
He called upon Sir Fletcher Norton, as the hightft
legal authority in the kingdom, to tell his m-iiion,
whether there was not, in the conffitution of Padia
mmt, an inherent right in the Reprcfentatives of the
people to contrcul the cr.;;cife cf ary power in the
Crown that tended to fttpport a government by in .
fluence and corruption against the voice of the people,
agair ft the redress of every national grievance, and
n fubve’fion of the freedom ar.d independence cf
Parliament.
The S peaker proceeded to give his opinion on this
great cot ftitutior>al question, ftate.l in th : s critical
fituatiou of pu hek aftfti s. He fi.-ft allude.’ t > Line
private tranfrfli’ ns betwixt himfeif and the Mmif
ter, which had , teved the noble L rd to he no friend
to him; ard that, rei h r in his pubiick nr private
capacity, c-uid he ever be a frier and to Lord North
either as a MiTfter or a man. H stated with the
uitrmft la'i'ude h* rieht of the lubjeft to
a ‘d ihe duty of Psrli merit to give the u ;n.;ft atten
tion to the drfucs cf iheir cmftituenfs; Suit that
i t the prefect tnftanc*, the known integrity, app~
rr.-t ability, and tx=e live property, rendered tlie
prefmt p-titfos ;l g ref; cftable sif they ;iro .
ceeded f twi the gn era! voice cf the peo le of Eng.
land. Aft ctattons and committees h* thought be
yond the line cf cor.ftjtutional application, and
r ig!;t rtm to ex; ITcs that were dangcrua to pub
lu k peace, and the fiecu:ity of the (We itfe'f; but
the petitions drferved abetter trea inert than they
ladl u and ; they ought immediately-to have bten
referred to a Ccm.tdttre, and the people of E gland
cuglit t have beet, fetisfi and hew far the piayera of
the oetiiirris c~ u!d or could not be e mpire.i with.
With rt gatd to the question ©f tight whether Par-
Lament ! r;d 3 right, he whs ft re to declare, that as
Parliament had grated tUe Civil Lft for life, and
given it in trust, as I ng as the conditions of the
cruft were cbArved Pa.liament night not, a .d
therefore he would fay could mo: interfere in the ex
penditure cf that revenue which they had given in
tiuft. The conditions cl that t uft were but two...
to maintain his hcumold in dignity,-- and to /im
port the civ-i gorct; ment of the country. Had it
been proved, or even suggested, that the civil go-
SAVANNAH: THURSDAY, JU! r E 22, 1780.
vrrnmonthaJ been ft jpped, or the King’s buftitrld
not properly maintained ? We have no riglt, .h n,
at thi r tim ,to irtt:fere with the controu of tae
K ng’s haulhold, much Id's to itn )..fe condt ir.> *n
the management •• f ;bia own domeftick rff .is, jn a
manner that the meanest lubjeft cauld not ber‘. stit
the qu;ttion h.fore us uiv dved, not only a u ft n
•sand nitftick am: g::nent, but a qutition <■ j 5
and such matters were in ewry it tt iKce lia .It e
i fpcft-.C'K, a-d A'it-e the ; m men fare o : -j. •(
control'.! cf Pa. itameut. ‘l'he If card or i . V'uj
a department of state, ne t of the hcufitold; ft .m*
become cot or ly uLlefs in its ftinfti r.s, but uif
chievous in iu eff clr; it anfwercd new no ptuqafe
whatever but t< bring seven or sight pensioned um
bers to v->te in every qurffion th.it came btfor fir •
liamcnt. He was theief .e clearly, coi.fcienußtiJy,
and fi.miy of r.pinion, that the Board of I'tade
cujht to be al o'illie.di
In regard to the it Htierc® of th® Cmwti, h; was
as much ado tilled th t any man Ih.uid have .it. ef
fror.te y t ? < eny its ire e. f-, as that any mu:, tvho
heted to re in a repute tt- n cf puhl ck or ~ vate
iitegri-v, c- uid rif- i Import of it. lufluen h&d
grown up n the we.tknefs cf < u country 5 antiper
brps cur cor.lt tution had more so fear from it yier
ricious p.ogr fs (ban the foil of our country ltd to
fe tr from he urn It r's cf cur united ym.mirs.
H* hi:nk!f edit It s dtlr and principal duty u op
pose the influence of corruption ; as !o-p as it was
in the .hair he would aid oily wiftr f r the .i.-reale
cf the ir.fluenc* of the Ct'owo ; &. J if h tlie
chair, hi# inert zealous < ffarts sh uldf r evo I em
pfoyed ‘o eltablilhing and cementing :he it:d|;eod
enc? cf Parliament.
Lord North said, tint the II rctuabic Gs Itma.i
Fad declared he hid nut treat #d him as afrit. , :ird
• hat he.ccultl ntjt in tern n look u on him v,iu:h.
lie dtd not know, hr flcl. : , y- -a>
j tfie |j t ft .'y-. - vi. tiil- 4 ,r y caule for cum .t.i'U'j
•. Tioi oroke any 1 rrtaife with him. They bad,
i deed, had f me wovds leading to a cea ’ciatloo,
bu: th.: II incurable Gentleman and ire c j\jAi not a
g ec; that was all. .
The 8 >ealtet in reply t-v';>rd all ci t-.juu’a"ces
of the negocktion. He Lid, was appointed
to the Chief Julticcfliip in Eyre ire had rtipniated
that he ftrni s d uot go out of the line of his prnfefli
on. A meffige was fsnt to him by a Right Hvo-.
curable Gentleman then in his eye, ir>ti*eattag him
to accept of the chair of that H uife. fie ac
cepted of it, under the express condi ion thtii lie
ftr;u!d succeed to the fit ft high office in tire law that
sh Mild become vacant.
Af-er this he bad heard from au'hority which he
could not difb iieve, that the Chief Juft.ce of the
Common Fieri was to retire u on a per,lron, and
that a Gentleman whole prc.fertianal knowledge,
short standing, want of experience, atul (ize v.f Hin
lities, were not equrl to tliofe either of the poefon
who was to 1 elite, or to many who had a better title,
to succeed.
This intimation, he laid, not a little furprized
him. He went to the Murifter and took a friend
with him, to infill that they (hon'd come to an im
plicit explanation. The r.ob.e Lord avowed the f ft,
and ftiuffled and cut through a multiplicity of arts
to com pro mile it.
Lord Njrth find that lie had not breke th; con
trast. It was made by his predecelTor in office, arid
he did not th:’ k hin.ftH bound to observe it. At
the fame time the Committee would not difeovet any
thing criminal in all this trarfadlien. It wss no
more than one Judge going out of office and another
G<* tb.nian succeeding.
Tite Speaker Ltd it was famething more, ard the
Committee would call it an abominable traulaftion.,
when tliry weie tv,ld thatthe change was to be made
for money.
Lord North said, if it was so, he was to touch
rone <fit; it was, lie fu; posed, to go tt the guitß -
man who whs to teti e.
The Attorney General fa'd, it was to him the
Horouraole Gen’l .man had alluded, as the peifon
Lippi led te have the pioroifeof the Chief Jufticelhip
of t'-e C mm on PUas; h; couio, however, fayw'itii
truth, that he had rtver tnacle any contract with the
noble Lore, nor expefted from hi.u any favourwhat
ever. He had indeed reject If me prepofals which
lie did not think adequate to h'.s lervicfs aud his ia
bour, a.,.! he would h.: happy to receive, wnhg.a
titude, the fav .ur of his S^veretgr.
fie admitted the inf. ri rity of his talents, and
acknowledged he was unable to rank with that
Ge. Leman. He adverted to the question and .
poled it, becauie a Council of Trade wculdjre in
ccm i etent, precarious, and uncertain ; and he ob
j fted to inter feiir.g with the King’s revenue at all,
b'eauU it would render the King de, endent on ids
M ciftetr, and destroy the monarchy of ihe empire.
Mr. Dunning replied, and cicfed tae debate.
The Committee divided upon the clause at tw*
o’clock.
A er- 207. Ne: 199.
The fuppo t.rs 1 the bill th.nt ;rc have carried
the claui'e for aboi lhtag the Baard of T adc.
G E O R G I A.
By his Excellency Sir JAMES
W R I G H TANARUS, Baronet, Captain-
General and Governor in Chief in
a*ui over his Majeflj’s Province of
Ge Chancellor, Vicc-Adaiiral,
and Ordinary of the fame,
A PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS I have received in:
formations that a set of infa
mous thieves and plunderers
have for fome time pall, and Hill are
going about this province, robbing,
plundering, and sometimes murdering,
the loyal and peaceable inhabitants, fe
vtral of whom call themfclves, and ac
tually ar^, M‘Girt*s men or people, and
pretend to have ?uth riry for going a
bout armed in companies or numbers
mo-ether: AND WHEREAS the fame
ftatu oceu, at tnc wcmv.is n<>< l. id
Savannah, preiented by the Grand fury
as a grievance: AND WHEuEAS
many other icile and diloi'derly pe<)ts)j,
steal, drive, and carry away, the cattle
and horles belonging to the inhabitants
aforefaid, and in the above informati
ons are mentioned Jahn Bonnel, Wil
liam Powell, Honor Powell, Henry
Wiibarns, Eliphas Stanley, Wim
berley, - Hart, Arthur Rials, James
Brown, V incent Carter, and James
Johnson, who was lately found guilty
of the murder of John Philip Ritter,
and broke gaol: WHEREFORE, in
order to prevent such villainous depre
dations ;n future, and to bring to con
dign punishment the afarefaid persons,
and such others as may have been con
cerned in any murders or robberies, I
have thought fit, by a id with the ad
vice and content of his Majefly’s Hon
ourable Council, to lfTue this my pro
clamation, off-ring, and I do hereby
promise, his Mujelty’s pardon, to any
one of the offenders who may inform
and give evidence againfi. the rest, (un
less such informant'hath been guilty of
murder, in which tale he can only be
reprieved;) also a reward of fifty
pounds sterling t®fuch offender, or any
ether person or persons, who may ap
prehend and deliver to the keeper of
the common gaul in Savannah, and
prosecute to conviction any of the of
fenders in the premites; the fame to be
paid on the convi&ion of the party or
parties. AND WHEREAS the bring
ing such offenders to justice will con
tribute greatly to the peace, quiet, and
advantage, of all his Majesty’s good
and loyal fubjt<fi.s, they are therefore
hereby required to be aiding and a{Tift>,
ing in the apprehending and giving c-
[N®. 69.]
